Gliders in Plane Finder

Discussion in 'Glider Tracking' started by Mark Daniels, Jul 10, 2014.

  1. Mark Daniels

    Mark Daniels Administrator Staff Member

    Glider G-CKDF.jpg
    You may have noticed more and more gliders appearing in Plane Finder apps and on planefinder.net

    These are coming to us courtesy of the great team at glidernet.org
    We added some cool glider icons too!
    Plane-Finder-Screenshot.png
    The gliders shown in that screenshot are equipped with FLARM transponders (the name is derived from "Flight Alarm"). FLARM devices are relatively cheap to install and help improve safety for glider pilots by alerting them of potential collisions.
     

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  2. Richard Lee

    Richard Lee Member

    I don't think we have any glider fields close enough to hear in the Boston area..
    When I went to check out the tech details at http://www.rtl-sdr.com/receiving-decoding-flarm-tracking-gliders-helicopters-etc-using-rtl-sdr/
    I saw it looked like 'weak signal work' and would be very difficult in this noisy RF environment.

    Then, I saw the link to view gliders being tracked-live.. http://cunimb.fr/live/3D/
    Since it's late in the evening here, I figure it's very late in Europe..
    But, there were still two gliders on the display! Brave night flyers?? So, I zoomed in on them..
    First one in the UK,

    Regist.: e5f9b652
    Flarm Id: hidden
    Type: Glider/MotorGlider
    Last time: 02:23:22
    Latitude: 51.189499
    Longitude: -1.034500
    Altitude: 197 m
    G.Speed: 0 km/h
    Track: 0 °
    Vz: –0.1 m/s
    Receiver: EGHL


    and the second somewhere near Italy.. (Graz airport)
    Regist.: 2a06f153
    Flarm Id: hidden
    Type: Glider/MotorGlider
    Last time: 02:22:58
    Latitude: 46.996498
    Longitude: 15.432000
    Altitude: 349 m
    G.Speed: 0 km/h
    Track: 0 °
    Vz: +0 m/s
    Receiver: LOWG



    Humm, no ground speed.. Zoomed in close.. Both are parked inside hangers at glider fields! :)
    I think a couple of folks might be testing their battery packs.. ;)



    Edit many hours later:
    Glider or radio (at Graz airport) has been moved..
    CN: _53
    Regist.: 2a06f153
    Flarm Id: hidden
    Type: Glider/MotorGlider
    Last time: 21:02:17
    Latitude: 46.157700
    Longitude: 15.432000
    Altitude: 348 m
    G.Speed: 0 km/h
    Track: 0 °
    Vz: +0.1 m/s
    Receiver: LOWG
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2014
  3. Mark Daniels

    Mark Daniels Administrator Staff Member

    Hi Richard,
    Brilliant detective work there!
    I'll keep a look out for those nocturnal gliders now too!
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
  4. Richard Lee

    Richard Lee Member

    They are both still transmitting (or so it seems)..

    That glider port in the UK has a strange looking airport across the runway.. Weird looking jets,
    with gliders and tow planes parked nearby.. Very odd.. No way a jet could taxi without blowing some gliders away..

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  5. Teecee

    Teecee New Member

    Hi Richard
    Yes it DOES have assorted jets 727s & 737s .
    The airfield is Lasham and there is a maintainence refurb company A.T.C. on site
     
  6. Teecee

    Teecee New Member

    Sorry I posted instead of getting a website address for you.
    http://lasham.weebly.com/
    Strange bedfellows but c'est la vie.
    Graz is in Austria
    Have fun
    Terry
     
  7. Richard Lee

    Richard Lee Member

    Wow! The gliders are out today at Lasham.. Looks like a half dozen are airborne..
    One glider out up at PORTMOAK glider port..
     
  8. Teecee

    Teecee New Member

    Hi Richard,
    Lasham is a VERY active glider field ( possibly THE most active in the U.K.), during the summer months there are a great variety of championship events, and we are having a nice warm summer (for a change), so you can expect to see plenty more about.
    (it's 20.45 and just about dusk, a bit overcast where I am, 25 ish miles (east) of Lasham 6 miles ish (south) of Heathrow.
    have fun
    Terry
     
  9. plane-finder_user

    plane-finder_user New Member

    How can i track it?
    If found no software for. THX
     
  10. FlyTT14

    FlyTT14 New Member

    Hi, just installed a GliderTracker (FLARM) on one of my Pi's and waiting for the season to open (May)
    ENHS where I'm close to is a popular glider area and I have been told that they use FLARM in many of the gliders
    I found all info on how to set up the Pi here: http://wiki.glidernet.org/links
     
  11. Richard Lee

    Richard Lee Member

    Not too much longer until May.. Be sure to post some plots here, so we can see how it's done.. :)
     
  12. FlyTT14

    FlyTT14 New Member

    Hey... It's working :)
    I see one glider live here http://live.glidernet.org/#c=59.77062,10.17026&z=11 and on https://planefinder.net/flight/FLRDDC201 :)

    Raw data from it looks like this in the Pi's live log page
    105336: [ +59.82438, +9.84597]deg 1277m -0.3m/s 28.7m/s 156.5deg +0.1deg/sec 5 02x04m -5.7kHz 4.8dB 0e 14.0km 310.7deg +4.5deg *
    105340: [ +59.82344, +9.84675]deg 1269m -3.4m/s 28.1m/s 158.2deg +0.1deg/sec 5 02x04m -5.5kHz 7.5dB 1e 13.9km 310.5deg +4.4deg *
    105341: [ +59.82321, +9.84695]deg 1266m -3.1m/s 28.5m/s 159.1deg +0.1deg/sec 5 02x04m -5.5kHz 7.2dB 0e 13.9km 310.4deg +4.4deg *
    105351: [ +59.82075, +9.84898]deg 1232m -1.8m/s 29.7m/s 153.7deg -0.7deg/sec 5 02x04m -5.5kHz 8.8dB 0e 13.6km 309.9deg +4.4deg *

    Next project now is to get a better antenna designed for the freq. they use
     
  13. Richard Lee

    Richard Lee Member

    I see that one! But see 4 of them on the live glider net link.. Pretty nice!
    Cheers, Rich
     
  14. FlyTT14

    FlyTT14 New Member

  15. Richard Lee

    Richard Lee Member

    I wonder if you could find a GMS 850 antenna? I see them for sale online.
    What are the TV bands in Norway? Maybe you could hook up to an existing TV antenna?
     
  16. FlyTT14

    FlyTT14 New Member

    Looks like you read my thoughts :)
    Then GSM net is at 900MHz but we have digital tv working from approx 470MHz to 856MHz (Channel 21 to 68) so I'm looking for an omnidirectional antenna and maybe with an built in amplifier

    btw. seems like the glidernet have some problem with the feed to livemaps, I have installed a APRS Map client on my own computer (Xastir and APRSIS32) and there is better feed on my own local map when I connect to one of the glidernet's aprsis servers
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2016
  17. FlyTT14

    FlyTT14 New Member

    hmm, don't see any gliders at https://planefinder.net/ today but I see them on my local APRS map client connected to the glidernet server..

    Is there a place to upload photos of gliders and other small plains, I have a few new with "Reg. ID"
     
  18. plane-finder_user

    plane-finder_user New Member

    hmm that i know 99% are encrpypt.
     

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